Watch out fellow patriots, Comrade Obama is trying to foist communism on our great nation. Do not let him bespoil her supple fields of grain.
52 Littlegrey Comments:
Fascism and Socialism are at the complete opposite ends of the spectrum. He uses the terms as if they are synonymous.
And on Top Monkeys comment that whenever communism has been attempted it has always been oppressive.
The fact is that no state has ever attempted communism. The terms that people use to describe their party/ ruling style are not indicative of the actual mode of governance.
Eg. Russian under Stalin was nowhere near communism, let alone even socialism. North Korea: Not communism. Look at all the oppressive and despotic regimes in post-independence countries with words like communist, democratic, republic etc. in their name.
Even Hitler's party was called the Social Democracts. Anything democratic about his party?
Sigh, do people still pay attention to politics?
I would figure that people who think themselves intelligent to gloat over their political enemies, would be wise enough to be Anarchists.
Paranoia and ridiculousness.
Definition of that Fox New's Broadcast.
I do not see the comparison between the cartoon and the fox editorial. And it is a editorial not a fox newsbdjei program
Why is it all of a sudden wrong to want to follow the constitution?
after watching this i'll never vote for a lying democrat ever again.... where's the legalized pot? where's the freedom? i'll vote republican or independent from now on..... i'm tired of being screwed by the dems.lrdns
Fox news equals ignorance
You crazy Americans and your wacky antics! You clowns really crack me up every time! Keep up the good work! :D
Is this what the news is like in America? It's some up tight, righteous prick ranting in to a camera. After watching it all I have no idea what point he was trying to make, it more or less all sounded like blah blah blah.
What is this, the freaking 50s and 60s? Can we resurrect McCarthy from his grave to purge the Commies from our government? Spread mass fear? Start complaining about the Jews again? Get brought back to the bring of nuclear warfare?
Because that would be great. Happy times all around for everyone.
What a ****tard.
TopMonkey: "Whenever communism has been tried it has been an oppressive regime wherein the people have suffered. Communism takes away a person's right to choose for themselves. As such it is inherently evil."
The same can be said for capitalism if you look for the information. More often it's not the ideology at fault, but the people who are in charge.
The news in America, starting with the early pamphlets and newspapers, has never been unbiased. It's only been in the last several decades that this pretense of objectivity has been preached by journalists. I have no problem with biased news; I just think they should drop the act.
Yeah but does that matter. I donÂ´t know about you but propaganda at this rate is not acceptable whether its news or not. And bringing false news may not be legal but that would be even worse than propaganda. That is like spitting the people in the face for their "ignorance". If the news is not a somewhat reliable source of information then where are you supposed to turn?
If we are back to commenting on FOX it should be known that Glen Beck DOES NOT do the news. He is a political commentator and when one watches his show it is with the expectation that it is editorial in nature and NOT news.
"Do you think a pure democraty would be possible."
Anything is possible, however it is not probable. The Greeks didn't even have a true democracy and they are the first history records as coming up with the concept.
That's the news you guys get?
I'll never take the BBC for granted again.
And someone mentioned (I only browsed that lot) controls over the US media- it's /not/ illegal to report false news, essentially they can say most things, it's up to you whether you believe it or not.
As nika said, communism, if it could ever work (it couldn't) would be perfect, and I love the idea of tax cuts balanced against reducing funds to large businesses.
Okey letÂ´s make some things clear. Socialism often gets confused with a more radical form of political "path", that is communism and sometimes even fascism. This is utterly wrong and people who thinks otherwise should read their history better, especially Fox News! There is today and have been many socialist countries that is purely based on democracy. What you see on Fox News is pure propaganda BUT in their perspective acceptable propaganda. News should be neutral when it comes to political questions and not posing propaganda in any form with some exceptions for example against dictatorships. I think they should take a good look at them self to realize what they have become! ItÂ´s no longer a news program itÂ´s a comedy show!
ow cool..a political discussion..okay..can I join with a question? Do you think a pure democraty would be possible...instead of voting on a person who then votes on a president, a miniter, a senator,...who can vote laws...why not vote ourselves for laws...everybody citizen could make up his own laws, post them on internet and if it gets enough votes from other citizens(depending if it's national or regional) it becomes a law...it's a rough idea..but wouldnt it be nice to cut out the gready middle persons from democracy? Think it's possible?
nika, as always, very well put.
The answer to your last question is obvious when one looks at things like photo-radar on the freeways, the current debate on the stimulus package, and even things like mandatory seat belt and mandatory auto insurance laws.
I am certain not everyone will agree with this, but to me the perfect president is somewhere between the two Rons, Ronald Reagan and Ron Paul. Each had ideas of personal liberty and rugged individualism that greatly appeal to me.
Perhaps many will say it was just presidential rhetoric, but when Reagan said,
"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. From time to time we've been tempted to believe that society has become too complex to be managed by self-rule, that government by an elite group is superior to government for, by, and of the people. Well, if no one among us is capable of governing himself, then who among us has the capacity to govern someone else? "
it rings true. Ron Paul said essentially the same thing.
Theory of communism is utopia that will never be reached- like many things it sounds good and functional on the paper but it excludes the human factor: the power and money hunger.
Communism wasn't meant to rob people of their right to choose, but it turned out that way in practice cause it's the most efficient way to control masses.
And are people really that naive to think that your freedoms are not suffocated in a more subtle manner in a democratic regime?
"Communism is a Utopian society that is considered the final step of human society, so people can stop portraying Communism as evil."
Are people really that naive? Whenever communism has been tried it has been an oppressive regime wherein the people have suffered. Communism takes away a person's right to choose for themselves. As such it is inherently evil.
Oh I didn't even notice Glenn Beck, but yea he failed miserably.
Yes, Obama did really say that. Sadly that is true though, Congress is likely to shut it down.
And Communism is a Utopian society that is considered the final step of human society, so people can stop portraying Communism as evil.
But wasn't the last time our government pushed us into something really quickly while we were in an emergency 9/11? Didn't we end up in a war we didn't need to be in?
Obama is not socialist, but the way he is going about solving America's issues is pretty socialistic in what he plans to do.
The first one was funny, but not too funny because it was too close to the truth.
The second one, however, made me want to kill that stupid jerk. I also think it ridiculous that he believes that what Obama said was socialist. He was just trying to make the obscenely wealthy a little less obscenely wealthy so other people have enough money to make ends meet.
The socialist approach would be to kill the 'pigs' and make everyone's pay equal.
I'm a democrat myself, so I'll admit to some bias here, but that second guy was so ignorant he made me want to punch him out.
He didn't even seem to realize the simple distinction between communism and socialism, the ignorant rube.
I found both of those to be funny but the second one had me almost fall off my chair from laughing.
The truth can be funny even though its a horrible truth about our country :D
Did Obama really say that. But if he tries to pass that congress would shut him down. And I agree with Iceman this was kind of funny.
I'm getting flash backs of The Shock Doctrine. @_@
You're not but the fun part was the animation. The "real" clip was supposed to be funny but failed miserably.
Am I the only one who found this funny?
"Fox just happens to be the most polarized."
UCLA did a study. Part of it reads, "Of the 20 major media outlets studied, 18 scored left of center, with CBS' "Evening News," The New York Times and the Los Angeles Times ranking second, third and fourth most liberal behind the news pages of The Wall Street Journal.
Only Fox News' "Special Report With Brit Hume" and The Washington Times scored right of the average U.S. voter.
The most centrist outlet proved to be the "NewsHour With Jim Lehrer." CNN's "NewsNight With Aaron Brown" and ABC's "Good Morning America" were a close second and third."
"But my main qualm with Republicans is how often I find the campaign exploits closely affiliating with Christian views. I have no problem with any religion, but when Religion and Politics interlock, I find it somewhat distasteful."
I totally agree with you on that one.
I know, America is great, isn't it? XD
Just because they're Christian doesn't mean that separation of church and state shouldn't still exist, Jonathan, but that's another matter entirely.
All news sources in the US are biased in one way or another, Fox just happens to be the most polarized; it gets them an audience who either hate them for what they say or follow them completely; regardless, they get views.
I find it very discouraging how much the concept of the "power of the individual, romantic will" in the United States has become so perverted throughout the years that it exists as largely a parody of itself today.
ipsofonic, the thing is that all U.S. Presidents to date have been Christian. I would continue but I lost my train of thought.
I freaking hope were going down the road to communism
"Isn't there any regulation on the media in the US?" Nope.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."
"Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press"
"i dont even understand why we grade peeps per skin color anyway." Me either...and that was my point.
OH ADMIN, WHAT WRATH OF FLAME WAR HAS THOU BROUGHT APON US?! Honestly, I side with the Democrats on most issues. The Republican party has varying views that I do not agree with. But my main qualm with Republicans is how often I find the campaign exploits closely affiliating with Christian views. I have no problem with any religion, but when Religion and Politics interlock, I find it somewhat distasteful. The stance that many Republicans have taken on gay marriage, abortion, the War on "Terror", and various other views has led me to choose the Democratic party as the more logical of the two. You may disagree, but that is your opinion.
Its true, all democrats suck and all republicans are ftw ftw ftw ftw plox.
(My first comment, if anyone overlooked that, was only for the animated part and so, here's for the surreal antics of FAUX news:)
I wonder sometimes: Isn't there any regulation on the media in the US? Why if Fox allowed to A) Bring ideology into journalism? B) Publicly attack (or praise, depending on the political weather) politicians as they please?
Isn't the primary virtue of journalism objectivity?
Now, having stated the obvious, I still wonder who - in their right mind - watches FOX as a source of "information"...
But when bush was proclaiming war that congress hadnt approved he gained power through it as war president. why didnt this dude say something then...?
Who gives a hoot anyway about that, its all about obama being black anyway. So since he has black skin, genetically his gene alleles are the ones of a black person, or atleast one is if the blackness allele isnt recessiv. so genetically he has either 100% black skin, or 50% black skin genes. i dont know what other origins hes got, but thats the way i see it. i dont even understand why we grade peeps per skin color anyway.
AbsintheAndCarnations, "...but when the Democrats want to put forward a tax cut package..." do you have a link to information on that package?
nika, true, but humor is subjective. I thought it was mildly funny.
Andylink, "You do realize that back when black people were slaves or even discriminated on as long as you were a fraction black you were considered all black right?" So?
As for, communism, "It's a country run by the people for the good of everyone in the nation." Funny how communist nations are never run that way though.
The point he was trying to make was that governement intervention is the wrong solution to this problem and can lead to governement having greater power than it currently does. He thinks this is bad. He isn't alone.
Has anyone else thought of how hypocritical this whole ordeal is? The Republicans say that Democrats will bleed the citizenry of their money through taxes, and that tax-cuts are the real solution, but when the Democrats want to put forward a tax cut package (which not only favors the middle class, instead of the rich, like Bush's tax strategy, and is actually a bigger tax /cut/ than Bush's tax /rebate/) it's suddenly evil? This silly partisanism really can't continue if the USA wants to keep hold of its economy.
You do realize that back when black people were slaves or even discriminated on as long as you were a fraction black you were considered all black right?
So now that a good thing has happened to someone who is black everyone is jumping on the fact he's also white? I seem to remember that when the whole train discrimination incident if you were 1/16th black you still considered full black. (I can't remember the trail please forgive me).
Anywho, everything that he was saying was bad actually sounded pretty good.
And Communism (an economic policy) by Marx standards is more democratic than capitalism is. It's a country run by the people for the good of everyone in the nation. Dictatorship was the only bad thing about other countries communism which spawned the whole you don't get freedoms with communism. But it's all misconception since you can make any change to it to suit individual interests since the people are in charge.
i don't get it...
Satire is supposed to be a witty humorous exaggeration of something you strongly disapprove of.
Glenn Beck commentaries are all of the above- except completely stripped of humor and wit.
Wow. This is ridiculous. Why do people watch Fox?
I don't watch Fox, I actually don't have cable. However, Glen Beck's bit is obviously satire. He's exaggerating to make a point about the stimulus package.
Also, I still don't understand this, "It took nearly six years and the election of a black man.." The black man part is based totally on the way Obama looks and not on the facts. He's actually our first mixed race president. He's just as much white as he is black. Why the focus on only the black half?
Maybe this guy ( http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-ehrenstein19mar19,0,5335087.story ) was right after all.
It's all odd to me because I grew up in neighborhood that was totally mixed. Mexican, Asian, Black and white, and we never gave a thought to it. We just played and had fun. So I grew up (perhaps I'm unusual in this) without racism being taught to me. I didn't realize until I was an adult, that some people thought poorly of others simply because of their race. It's all very odd.
This wouldn't be funny if it wasn't there pure, uncut truth.
It's also a little sad that this is so true, but funny nonetheless.
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