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Apple’s little problem with ripping off artists
categories: Art, Geeky

Apple’s advertising campaigns are consistently creative, so what’s their secret? Well sometimes they borrow artists’ work and forget to get permission. My civics teacher, Ms. Whitehead, used to yell at me about that sort of thing all the time. Well who’s yelling now Ms. Whitehead? ASHAJFHDSHFSD!

35 Littlegrey Comments:

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July 20th, 2007 at 5:35 pm TopMonkey says:

Buy both? Talk about cost overrun. nika said she owns both, yet complains about the cost to upgrade a the money you spent on buying both and upgrade the PC...why didn't I think of that before...thanks twan.

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July 16th, 2007 at 6:49 pm wyse says:

Pikachu, I choose you!

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July 16th, 2007 at 6:41 pm twan says:

people actually have discussions about mac or PC.

if u can't choose, buy both.

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July 16th, 2007 at 1:00 am TopMonkey says:

That's not true anyway, Macs do get viruses.

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July 12th, 2007 at 4:20 pm Rebel975 says:

You know why there aren't viruses on Mac's? Why bother making a virus for Mac? You'll infect what.. 200 computers world wide? >:)

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July 12th, 2007 at 1:16 pm what do u care says:

I love ma*s and hate the ** I don't exa*tly *are any more but you won't see me getting a virus any time soon an my beautiful ma*

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July 10th, 2007 at 11:50 pm Rebel975 says:

That settles that. >:)

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July 10th, 2007 at 11:32 pm TopMonkey says:

Meee Needer!

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July 10th, 2007 at 9:03 pm Rebel975 says:

I just don't like Mac's. :)

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July 10th, 2007 at 7:39 pm TopMonkey says:

By way...we've all lost site that this post was actually about how Apple stole their advertising.

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July 10th, 2007 at 7:33 pm TopMonkey says:

I said I knew the Mac had full mouse options, (read my post closer), and I never said the Mac needed add on programs, I said the PC didn't (That's not the same thing).

Okay, you say that a PC can't bring out the max from the top of the line software without an expensive upgrade. I don't know who told you that, but my PC runs whatever I throw at it, has for three years, and I haven't upgraded a thing. I run high end graphics, video editors, web design software, and...yes, the great and...I get to play some awesome games on it too. The PC isn't a this or that machine, it runs it all.

I certainly can find software that you can't run on your Mac, the issue is, you can't upgrade, so you have no choice but to buy a whole new machine!

And what got me indignant? The Mac faithful.

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July 10th, 2007 at 7:28 pm bluerocker says:

Boy...I thought today's DYOG link to the Apple bit was a lot of reading....YEASH! Just like the article, I zoned out after about the first three paragraphs.

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July 10th, 2007 at 6:32 pm Rebel975 says:

What top of the line software is this, and when did you buy your Mac? If you bought the Mac 5 years ago, it isn't going to run it flawlessly. Neither would a 5 year old PC. The difference is you can upgrade the PC. You can't upgrade the Mac.

The "Mac just works" idea is a farce. It all depends on when you bought the Mac.

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July 10th, 2007 at 6:23 pm nika says:

I did tell you what it can't do: it can't bring out the maximum from the top of the line software without an expensive upgrade (that Mac didn't need).
How experienced you are with Mac showed one of your previous comments where you wrote that Mac mouse has only one button, and right now when you wrote that it needs add on programs for every action.
I like Mac, I want to use Mac and if I have to choose between Mac and expensive upgrade of my PC every year I choose Mac for certain activities.
I don't know why you got indignant, I usually get that way when I'm insecure about something.. ;)

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July 10th, 2007 at 5:57 pm TopMonkey says:

Actually I own the computer, it is my personal PC. I haven't upgraded it in three years (when I purchased it) it cost me around $800, and still does everything I need it to. I'm not speaking in general terms and am speaking from more than experience. Computers are my lively hood.

To those of us (I will include rebel) who actually "use" a computer, upgrading isn't a curse, it's a blessing.

What I take exception with is your comment, "PC definitely has certain limitations when you try to do some serious work." You write that, and I am the one making generalizations?

In all these Mac vs. PC discussions no one has ever been able to tell me something a Mac does that a PC doesn't. Those flip commercials Mac puts on make PC users mad because everything they mention as oh, I'm a Mac, well, the PC does those things too.

The PC, provides three, sometimes four methods of just about every action. I can use hot keys, mouse functions, presets, etc. to get something done. I don't need add on programs for music, for photos, burning CD's, zip files etc.

Again, if you like the Mac, if you want to use the Mac, I have nothing to say about that. However, when you say "PC definitely has certain limitations when you try to do some serious work." I get indignant because that simply isn't a true statement. Then you compound it by saying I am the one making generalizations and that it's individual when in actuality you are.

And still, after all that, you have not told me what a Mac can do that a PC can't.

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July 10th, 2007 at 5:06 pm Rebel975 says:

Let's not get me started on religion. >:)

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July 10th, 2007 at 4:25 pm JurassicUtility says:

Oh Christ... You people just HAD to get Rebel going. :)

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July 10th, 2007 at 3:14 pm Rebel975 says:

Nika, that's like the game consoles versus computers debate. You can't upgrade consoles, and you really can't upgrade Mac's.

The console users see it as crap that you have to upgrade the PC's graphics card once a year to stay "top of the line", while their new PS3 can run the games forever.

To me, upgrading is awesome. I love being ABLE to, I don't have to. I can stay with my current setup and not keep up with the req's of new games (Which even now is a million times better than any PS3 or Xbox)... or I can upgrade and progress as they do. See, to me that's what makes a computer better than a console. They are ALWAYS improving, rather than an improvement once every 5 years. (New consoles...)

To me, that's what a Mac is. You get what you get, and you buy a new one in 5 years. You don't, and for most parts CAN'T upgrade it, which to me is a negative. I want to be able to swap out my graphics card with a new one, rather than replace my whole computer.

As for the iPod, I agree the device itself is good. If I had $300 I would buy one... even still, I find iTunes to be ridiculous. iTunes just makes me want to kill myself, so of course I would use a 3rd party program.

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July 10th, 2007 at 2:53 pm nika says:

I'm assuming that your company pays for PC upgrades which make possible for all the video/graphic softwares to work properly. So that makes it your work computer, not (ironically enough) your personal computer.
When I emailed cinema4D manufacturer what specs should my PC have for the software to give it's max, I realized I'd have to spend 2x the price of the same software just to get the best of it. At that time the my PC was 2 years old and top of the line when I bought it.

On the other hand I don't like IMing from Mac and doing any kind of social interaction that PC is great for.

As far as mp3 players go: I had Creative- RIP after 4 months ; Sony- RIP after 6 months (both about 120$), then got iPod mini (I don't think they even produce it anymore) for 200$ two years ago and I never had any problems with it.

I don't like people talking in general and using their experience as a fact when it's so clearly obvious it's individual.

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July 10th, 2007 at 2:49 pm Rebel975 says:

I don't use the forum. *Shrug*

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July 10th, 2007 at 2:28 pm ThousandFace says:

Man we cant leave you three alone can we?
But if you guys could take this to the forums, this doesnt seem like the right place to be debating ;)

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July 10th, 2007 at 2:08 pm TopMonkey says:

Rebel said it right...

No one has told me what a Mac can do better than a PC or that a PC can't do and a Mac can.

I get exhausted trying to understand why people worship at the alter of the Mac religion, faithfully believing their system is so great. I know you can get Macs with a full mouse, but they still sell models that come with the trusty one button clunker.

I work for a major city in Public Affairs. We do web, we do video, we do graphic design, we do desktop publishing, we do printing, we do live television. We just got rid of the last Mac (video editing) for a PC which does the job better and was cheaper than its Mac equivalent. My PC is full featured and I didn't have to buy anything, at all, to make it that way.

So what can a Mac do, that a PC can't? Why pay three times more for an ipod, when many (dare I say many, many) other products perform just as well or better? I use Windows Media player (came with my computer for free) to manage and sync all of my music library. While my few thousand songs may not be as many as others have, that's an amount that needs managed. I easily do it with included software and an mp3 player that was more affordable.

If you like it, you like it, and that I can accept. I've yet to find evidence, actual fact, that they perform better. Even with graphics and video editing which is the one thing people usually point to, the PC has outpaced the Mac and has the lion share of the market there too.

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July 10th, 2007 at 8:00 am nika says:

I don't know what you do Monkey but you've obviously done it years ago if you used a mouse with only one button: my Mac mouse has normal left/right click and left/right/up/down scroll..

Didn't use a full potential..? Oh you mean I didn't pay Microsoft 3 additional softwares that would make it possible..? (and are default on new Mac's) I don't spend $$$ to upgrade it every year or two to keep it on a decent level comparing to new ones..?

Yes, I do take it as an offense cause
a) you have no idea what kinda work did I use it for
b) I never buy something expensive if I don't need it just to have a new toy or to be trendy.

As I said: I have a pc and a Mac, and each of them has their niche.

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July 10th, 2007 at 2:32 am Rebel975 says:

Mac renders graphics somewhat faster than PC's do. Average users don't use comps for that. (I am speaking in terms of seconds.)

There are three types of users. Low key, gamer, and designer. The majority use a comp for internet browsing, so what do they care that Mac's usually need alternative or special versions of software to do something?

The rest of the majority use PC's for gaming. These people realize Mac's just can't do what a PC can do. (Maybe Mac realized it themselves... they DO use PC parts now.)

A small fraction do graphic design. (Hm.. and Mac has 5% of the market share, eh?) So, I find it odd that Mac's adds are turning away the very people who buy their comps. Who am I speaking of? The people who need to do graphic design. (There is no other reason to buy a Mac than to get a fast copy of Photoshop going.)They are turning them away with their ads stating that only PC's are good for work, and the Mac's are for fun.

Of course, no matter how much Mac's are useless to the average user, the fact that they have started a fashion trend with their iPod is their saving grace. I rue the day the average person uses a bit of common sence and shops around to realize there are cheaper and better alternatives out there.

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July 10th, 2007 at 2:21 am TopMonkey says:

No seriously, what?

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July 10th, 2007 at 2:17 am TopMonkey says:

I agree with rebel on the ipod issue. I never got one because I already own a very capable mp3/wma player. Why would I need an ipod? Lets face it, TopMonkey isn't trendy, and that's about the only advantage to an ipod over other devices.

Back to Macs...I still can't get over it when people seem to think a Mac can do things a PC can't or when they talk about the levels or organization or the OS. What can a Mac do that a PC can't?

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July 10th, 2007 at 2:13 am TopMonkey says:

No offense nika, but if you think a PC is limited then you do know how to use it to its full potential. I've used both a Mac and a PC and I could not get my work done on a Mac. My mouse has 5 buttons and two way scrolling for a reason...Mac has one, for a reason.

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July 9th, 2007 at 8:18 pm Pokey says:

i always noticed that the apple commercial was a huge rip off of such great heights. stupid.

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July 9th, 2007 at 4:30 pm Rebel975 says:

The problem I have with iPod is there are plenty of alternatives which function as well and are half or 2/3rds the price with more features. (FM tuner anyone?) I also loath iTunes... *Shudder.* You can't just drag-and-drop files with an iPod because they want you to use their iTunes crap.. why? WHY? Makes me sick.

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July 9th, 2007 at 3:48 pm nika says:

Well that's not all it does Rebel, but I agree that it's much better for graphic design, statistical charts (especially when you're working on the field..) etc- and no other OS offers that level of organization.. But I would never a discard PC .. :)

My iPod works flawlessly for two years since I got it, even the battery doesn't show the signs of weakness.. I guess it's individual. ;)

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July 9th, 2007 at 3:39 pm The1TrueKnasty says:

I don't hate apple for the computers, for the crappily-made Ipods which break so easily.

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July 9th, 2007 at 2:52 pm Rebel975 says:

Isn't that ironic? That Mac ads say how bad PC is for having fun, when really, all it does is play games? (And it's damn good at it?) While Mac, the ads say, is the gaming machine, while all it does is Photo Shop, Final Cut, ect? (And it's damn good at it?)

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July 9th, 2007 at 2:22 pm nika says:

Hate Apple all you want, but I own both PC and Mac Powerbook, and PC definitely has certain limitations when you try to do some serious work.
And by that I don't mean beating someone's highscore. ;)

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July 9th, 2007 at 1:53 pm Rebel975 says:

PC's have always dominated and probably always will. Gotta love that 90+% market share.

Now Mac makes PC parts.

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July 9th, 2007 at 11:17 am The1TrueKnasty says:

I have always hateed apple, just one more reason.

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